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s office that i had a lot of information on michael cohen, none of which was good for michael cohen. i saw him on tv making statements that donald trump directed this and donald trump directed that. that statement that you put up on the screen earlier and read from, from february of 2018, that is very similar to what michael cohen told myself and my law partner. it's not just one onone with me. it's two-on-one and we took notes. that statement from february of 2018 that you just read is very, very similar. except for the fact that in april of 2018 when we met with him, he was suicidal. the mine was beside himself. his apartment and his law office had been searched pursuant to a warrant by the fbi. he said to us that his world is over. his family life is destroyed, his business life is destroyed. he was absolutely destroyed. he looked like he hadn't slept in a couple days. then he told us, by the way, i was up on the roof, the weekend before, which i think was one or two days before, seriously considering jumping off the roof. when i heard that, i didn't know whether he was being a dr
s office that i had a lot of information on michael cohen, none of which was good for michael cohen. i saw him on tv making statements that donald trump directed this and donald trump directed that. that statement that you put up on the screen earlier and read from, from february of 2018, that is very similar to what michael cohen told myself and my law partner. it's not just one onone with me. it's two-on-one and we took notes. that statement from february of 2018 that you just read is very,...
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all good. >> -- robert costello claims he met with michael cohen when michael cohen was first shopping for a criminal defense attorney to represent him in the stormy daniels case. and michael cohen told him that he paid off stormy daniels on his own without involving donald trump. here is attorney robert costello after he testified to the manhattan grand jury monday, claiming he contradicted michael cohen's testimony to that grandeur. >> and i listen to michael cohen standard from the courthouse and say things that are directly contrary to what he said to us. my obligation is to bring the truth to both the district attorney and to trump's lawyers. that's exactly what i did. i sent of all of this material that i talked about before. i have 330 emails in chronological order. i have a memo of a contemporaneous memo of the first meeting at the regency hotel. i have a memo of the two hour meeting i had to assistant united states attorneys and two fbi agents in april of 2019. but i have a memo of a meeting that i had in may of 2019, with the house intelligence committee. through their staffe
all good. >> -- robert costello claims he met with michael cohen when michael cohen was first shopping for a criminal defense attorney to represent him in the stormy daniels case. and michael cohen told him that he paid off stormy daniels on his own without involving donald trump. here is attorney robert costello after he testified to the manhattan grand jury monday, claiming he contradicted michael cohen's testimony to that grandeur. >> and i listen to michael cohen standard from...
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well first off if i was michael cohen's attorney, or if i was michael cohen himself, you know, maybe there's a different decision as opposed to pleading guilty and going to prison if you feel like you're being wrongfully accused, while then you fight that charge and you have your day in court. i don't know what else was. you know? i don't know what we don't know about the michael cohen case, but what we know is that he pled guilty to those charges, and he went to prison for that. donald trump. president trump is deciding that he is going to fight these charges and he'll have his day in court and have the prosecution will have to prove their case. i think one of the other flaws in this situation is that with alvin bragg, he he's not someone who is a consistent law and order guy who is enforcing laws across the board. as a matter of fact, what he's received. a lot of criticism for is that his first day that he was in office, he put out a memo that said all these different laws across the board. prosecutors are not allowed to prosecute and all of these other offenses you have to charge.
well first off if i was michael cohen's attorney, or if i was michael cohen himself, you know, maybe there's a different decision as opposed to pleading guilty and going to prison if you feel like you're being wrongfully accused, while then you fight that charge and you have your day in court. i don't know what else was. you know? i don't know what we don't know about the michael cohen case, but what we know is that he pled guilty to those charges, and he went to prison for that. donald trump....
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and he was there to contradict michael cohen. and he said that he had told a number of people, apparently, about this difference. his view of michael cohen's testimony a while ago. and the very last night he mentioned all these names. the very last name one of the very last names he mentioned was dan goldman. he met with dan goldman monday and goldman was on the staff of a house committee, met with him about michael cohen and stormy daniels and that whole thing and so tonight is the night. >> tonight is the night. >> we get to ask dan goldman, what was that all about? >> i want to know. >> what did that guy mean? >> i want to know what other lawyers think. i would very much like to know what dan goldman has to tell you. >> that's what we're gonna find out in this hour. thank you alex. well don trump has made it through another day of his life without being indicted. it could be the last indictment free day of donald trump's life. and trump supporters have made it through another day of their lives without protesting for donald tr
and he was there to contradict michael cohen. and he said that he had told a number of people, apparently, about this difference. his view of michael cohen's testimony a while ago. and the very last night he mentioned all these names. the very last name one of the very last names he mentioned was dan goldman. he met with dan goldman monday and goldman was on the staff of a house committee, met with him about michael cohen and stormy daniels and that whole thing and so tonight is the night....
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castella says that he met with michael cohen in 2018 after michael cohen's home and office was subject to a search warrant by the fbi, when michael cohen was shopping for a criminal defense lawyer and that michael cohen was in a legal panic at the time. >>ic a he was really files old, hethee looked like he hadn't slept in four or five days, and he just suddenly stopped in the middle of talking to someone pointed at us and said i want you guys to know, i will do whatever the f it takes, i will never spend one day in jail. he must have said that close to 20 times. this was his mantra, all day long. do you think a guy who has his mindset at that time, i -- shoot somebody, whatever it takes i am not going to jail? we went to jail. and now he is on the revenge tour. understand it, but i don't condone it. and that is why i went in there today to tell these people the truth about who the real michael cohen's, and what he was actually saying at that moment. >> mr. cartel stella said that michael cohen had signed a waiver with attorney client privilege in 2018 that allows him to now testify abo
castella says that he met with michael cohen in 2018 after michael cohen's home and office was subject to a search warrant by the fbi, when michael cohen was shopping for a criminal defense lawyer and that michael cohen was in a legal panic at the time. >>ic a he was really files old, hethee looked like he hadn't slept in four or five days, and he just suddenly stopped in the middle of talking to someone pointed at us and said i want you guys to know, i will do whatever the f it takes, i...
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michael cohen. sure. the zombie case we it at times the zombie case, because it was a theory of prosecution and some potential crimes that were investigated put aside because legal or factual problems reinvestigated. so they were exhumed a and put aside for a variety of reasons, reexamined yet again and it kept returning from the grave so often that we started to it as the zombie theory. what it involved was the concealment of the reimbursement to michael cohen of the hush money that he had paid to stormy daniels. most people who have have followed the trump saga recall that it became public years ago, that michael cohen on, trump's behalf, had paid $130,000 to stormy daniels and her lawyer right before the election in. 2016. and at a time when she was threatening to expose her allegation that she had had an affair with donald trump, that was let's put i don't mean to interrupt. sure, but let's pause. you use the word threat. that's key to understanding your perception, the zombie case, because you
michael cohen. sure. the zombie case we it at times the zombie case, because it was a theory of prosecution and some potential crimes that were investigated put aside because legal or factual problems reinvestigated. so they were exhumed a and put aside for a variety of reasons, reexamined yet again and it kept returning from the grave so often that we started to it as the zombie theory. what it involved was the concealment of the reimbursement to michael cohen of the hush money that he had...
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but michael cohen is far from solid evidence. this guy by any prosecutor's standard, and i used to be deputy chief of the criminal division in the southern district of new york. i wouldn't have touched a guy like michael cohen, especially if he's a convicted perjurer, not to mention as i said the 50 to 100 lies he told us that are in those 330 e-mails. >> [ inaudible question ]. >> i can't say that. could you -- you just don't know. i can't read people's minds. i could see certainly a few of them were doing what you're doing right now, shaking your head up and down. but not everybody. so i just don't know. i would love for those people to watch tv or something tonight or just remember what i said and say to the prosecutors, listen, we'd like to see the rest of those e-mails. don't cherry-pick six e-mails out of 330 and then ask costello questions about it. that's not fair by anybody's standard. >> just to clarify, michael cohen paid stormy daniels with his own money, not at the behest of mr. trump? >> that's what he told us. >> t
but michael cohen is far from solid evidence. this guy by any prosecutor's standard, and i used to be deputy chief of the criminal division in the southern district of new york. i wouldn't have touched a guy like michael cohen, especially if he's a convicted perjurer, not to mention as i said the 50 to 100 lies he told us that are in those 330 e-mails. >> [ inaudible question ]. >> i can't say that. could you -- you just don't know. i can't read people's minds. i could see certainly...
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cohen say and then inches up to the jury to decid beyond a reasonable doubt. >> have your michael cohen being contacted, today, by the manhattan da's office? >> i cannot tell you about those contacts i can't tell you the answe that i will say that in the recen days i was struck by the level of detail of the questions and answers that michael had t provide, down to the nitty-gritty granular level. these folks have exactly wha you said alvin bragg is not bringin this case without huge amounts of corroboration and everybody who is speculating about it is a weak case, it is a bad case, it should not -- >> it has not even bee unsealed yet >> exactly they do not know, and the lega question i just want to say, this is not been done before i all of the issues with federal versus a state, they hav several state laws that, wit these facts, a judge is no going to deprive the jury of a verdict because of a legal argument there are state laws that have been violated, and we will see if this judge agrees with me but in, any case the facts are very strong. a jury could decide beyond reasonable doubt >
cohen say and then inches up to the jury to decid beyond a reasonable doubt. >> have your michael cohen being contacted, today, by the manhattan da's office? >> i cannot tell you about those contacts i can't tell you the answe that i will say that in the recen days i was struck by the level of detail of the questions and answers that michael had t provide, down to the nitty-gritty granular level. these folks have exactly wha you said alvin bragg is not bringin this case without huge...
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to benefit our boss, not to benefit michael cohen, and michael cohen is the only one who has been convicted, in prison and had to suffer what were pretty horrific conditions of confinement. nobody wants to be confined. you know what? he stood up, he took responsibility for his crime and i think, if you -- if you put yourself in his shoes, he was probably pretty darn upset that the person who really benefited from the crime that he committed at trump's direction has never been held accountable. is he supposed to feel good about that? >> one more point from our exclusive reporting again from jonathan dienst, our partner at wnbc is this: cohen felt it was important to keep the matter secret from melania trump to protect her and trump's marriage. cohen wanted to keep it from his own wife because cohen was taking out a loan to front the money. would any of that be relevant to the charges we believe they're looking at here? >> i predict all of that will make an appearance at trial when trump's defense team cross examines michael cohen robustly. look at the timing of this payment and look at how m
to benefit our boss, not to benefit michael cohen, and michael cohen is the only one who has been convicted, in prison and had to suffer what were pretty horrific conditions of confinement. nobody wants to be confined. you know what? he stood up, he took responsibility for his crime and i think, if you -- if you put yourself in his shoes, he was probably pretty darn upset that the person who really benefited from the crime that he committed at trump's direction has never been held accountable....
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thank you very much we do want to bring in michael cohen. michael. thank you so much for being here with us. don and i obviously have a lot of questions for you. as do the american people have you back together? we appreciate you joining us. what a day. it is for you today. and so this took a lot of people by surprise, including the amount of charges against former president so this is expected to be a 34 count indictment. 34 felony charges. do you understand why so many? yes i understand. i can't go in and i can't discuss it. however 34 is a pretty significant number. it certainly goes well past the stormy daniels. hush money payments are some of these because you received multiple payments again. i can't go into any of the specifics of this case. it's just not right to due to the prosecutors. this is their case, one of the things that i continues to say is that at the end of the day, there is a presumption of innocence. since and you know we do have to respect the due process clause and this case will ultimately be known to all of us. we will have
thank you very much we do want to bring in michael cohen. michael. thank you so much for being here with us. don and i obviously have a lot of questions for you. as do the american people have you back together? we appreciate you joining us. what a day. it is for you today. and so this took a lot of people by surprise, including the amount of charges against former president so this is expected to be a 34 count indictment. 34 felony charges. do you understand why so many? yes i understand. i...
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donald trump picked michael cohen as the key witness. donald trump hired michael cohen. used him tactics, and that ultimately is the picture that the jury will see. >> and what he got convicted of was all stuff for donald trump. really quickly, i want to ask you, glenn, about this attempt to quash the georgia investigation. donald trump's folks, they released this brief in which they're trying to claim based on the fifth and 14th amendments that fani willis in georgia should not be able to prosecute him. your thoughts? >> yeah, usually we see a motion to quash when a subpoena has been served and the witness that has been subpoenaed wants to argue the prosecutor doesn't really have a lawful basis to issue the subpoena. so the witness will file or the attorney will file a motion to quash the subpoena. asking the judge to rule that the subpoena is unenforceable. so a motion to quash a grand jury report recommending that certain indictments be handed down doesn't really feel like a procedural thing. i recognize we're in sort of uncharted waters here. but when you look -- i h
donald trump picked michael cohen as the key witness. donald trump hired michael cohen. used him tactics, and that ultimately is the picture that the jury will see. >> and what he got convicted of was all stuff for donald trump. really quickly, i want to ask you, glenn, about this attempt to quash the georgia investigation. donald trump's folks, they released this brief in which they're trying to claim based on the fifth and 14th amendments that fani willis in georgia should not be able...
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michael cohen plead guilty eons ago, went to prison. and so, the idea that there's this -- i get it, that it's hard to convict somebody who has a huge number of people in the country that believe his lies, i get that, because criminal verdicts have to be unanimous, but the law is either going to apply to everybody or it's not, and six years is a really long time >> yeah, i mean, tim, i guess -- i don't get it i don't get -- let me read this again, because i forgot how black and white this was at the time during the campaign, michael cohen played a central role in two similar schemes to purchase the rights to stories each from women who claimed to have had an affair with individual one, donald trump as to suppress the stories and thereby prevent them from influencing the election with respect to both payments, michael cohen acted with the intent to influence the 2016 presidential election. cohen coordinated his actions with one or more members of the campaign, including through meetings and phone calls about the fact, nature of the payme
michael cohen plead guilty eons ago, went to prison. and so, the idea that there's this -- i get it, that it's hard to convict somebody who has a huge number of people in the country that believe his lies, i get that, because criminal verdicts have to be unanimous, but the law is either going to apply to everybody or it's not, and six years is a really long time >> yeah, i mean, tim, i guess -- i don't get it i don't get -- let me read this again, because i forgot how black and white this...
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world and michael cohen. he was a legal adviser to cohe but not actually retained by him. he was trying to keep them i the fold of being loyal to the president, et cetera as michael cohen started t flirt with actually cooperatin with the prosecution instead gradually became disenchante with michael cohen and they ha a falling out. the trump camp evidently wants costello to go to the gran jury and attack the credibilit of michael cohen he is just a liar, he is makin stuff up it is up to the grand jury about whether they want to hea from mr. costello. they could choose not to if they choose to and he say some things about michael cohen, that is a win for th prosecution, they would avai themselves of the opportunit to have him come back an address whatever concern costello may have made we have a series of gifts here all this could happen or nothing could happen depending on what the grand jury wants t do >> charlie, on this, again, th new york times reporting o this, nbc news also reportin on this, castella wil
world and michael cohen. he was a legal adviser to cohe but not actually retained by him. he was trying to keep them i the fold of being loyal to the president, et cetera as michael cohen started t flirt with actually cooperatin with the prosecution instead gradually became disenchante with michael cohen and they ha a falling out. the trump camp evidently wants costello to go to the gran jury and attack the credibilit of michael cohen he is just a liar, he is makin stuff up it is up to the...
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and that is what michael cohen to jail. so that's my answer district about okay, but the southern district passed , right. i mean, they said that this was trivial, according to elie honig book and he broke it . they passed on taking that alvin bragg is gonna now prosecute. elie honig is inaccurate. he's making that up. there was no quote. then why didn't the then why didn't the feds why i have to ask this? why didn't the feds prosecute for these same facts? trump because he was an incumbent president. let me repeat that. how about when he got out? how about when he got out? prosecutors never once suggested that they didn't have a case against mr trump. in fact, they declared they had the same case against trump they did against cohen. they said that trump instructed cohen to pay hush money, but they couldn't prosecute that he was incumbent president. in fact, they called him and he he's not. he's not the president. now he's not the president. now. surely they took a look at him when he got out of office. so you're absolutel
and that is what michael cohen to jail. so that's my answer district about okay, but the southern district passed , right. i mean, they said that this was trivial, according to elie honig book and he broke it . they passed on taking that alvin bragg is gonna now prosecute. elie honig is inaccurate. he's making that up. there was no quote. then why didn't the then why didn't the feds why i have to ask this? why didn't the feds prosecute for these same facts? trump because he was an incumbent...
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for you, michael cohen isn't needed in this case. all these pundits and pontificators and lawyers who are speaking on tv, especially on another rival network, have no clue what the evidence is in this case. i'm in the room. i know what the evidence is. they don't so they're speculating, and they have no idea that this case is surrounded by documents, evidence, and facts. i think this case is extremely strong i hear people say it's a weak case it's because they have no clue, no facts they're just speculating >> you mentioned mr. berman. and you did mention that he has this chapter in his book where he talks about getting a call from william barr, who we do know was acting as a fixer for donald trump and as attorney general at the same time but what you said sound like you're alleging some intimidation tactics against mr. berman and maybe against mr. cohen as well. >> no question that mr. berman wrote that in the book he waited a little long to talk about what was basically criminal obstruction of justice, even if the attorney general
for you, michael cohen isn't needed in this case. all these pundits and pontificators and lawyers who are speaking on tv, especially on another rival network, have no clue what the evidence is in this case. i'm in the room. i know what the evidence is. they don't so they're speculating, and they have no idea that this case is surrounded by documents, evidence, and facts. i think this case is extremely strong i hear people say it's a weak case it's because they have no clue, no facts they're...
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michael cohen is he said that donald trump knew what he was paying for and knew that michael cohen, his lawyer, was doing it on his behalf we'll get into the evidence he could be presenting to the jury in a moment. we also have an answer from donald trump's lawyers about whether he, donald trump, will accept his own invitation from da alvin bragg to also sit for the grand jury. >> we have no plans on participating in that proceeding it's a decision that needs to be made still, no deadline has been set so we'll wait and see. >> whether he speaks or not is almost secondary right now, the fact he got the invitation at all signals to some lawyers a decision on charges, a decision on charges, is likely coming so if he is charged, what happens next not just logistically like what are the charges and does he turn himself in but politically. do charges help him or hurt him with gop voters? trump will be in iowa today, are the crowds still showing up to see him? we have a reporter on the ground, and donald trump's opponents are watching closely as well. including former vice president mike pence
michael cohen is he said that donald trump knew what he was paying for and knew that michael cohen, his lawyer, was doing it on his behalf we'll get into the evidence he could be presenting to the jury in a moment. we also have an answer from donald trump's lawyers about whether he, donald trump, will accept his own invitation from da alvin bragg to also sit for the grand jury. >> we have no plans on participating in that proceeding it's a decision that needs to be made still, no deadline...
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and michael cohen, michael cohen, michael cohen is that guy. but we've all known for about a long time that if there's a prosecution, the defense will stand on the idea that michael cohen as a liar and a fraudster. and of course, the prosecution will use michael cohen likely do while cooperating with witnesses, and say, okay he may be a criminal, but it takes a criminal to catch a criminal. but beyond michael cohen, this case will be a document case. and it's true there are checks made out to michael cohen, but they are made out to michael cohen, which may bolster trump's argument that in fact it was just doing what his lawyer told him to do and paid his lawyer directly. and joe tacopina is right and that michael cohen did go in and plead guilty, and did testify to the state that the payments were made to save trump and his family harm. and he is right, under federal election law, as long as that one reason is there, he may not even matter that there are additional reasons -- helping the campaign. so, if you had family embarrassment, that trump
and michael cohen, michael cohen, michael cohen is that guy. but we've all known for about a long time that if there's a prosecution, the defense will stand on the idea that michael cohen as a liar and a fraudster. and of course, the prosecution will use michael cohen likely do while cooperating with witnesses, and say, okay he may be a criminal, but it takes a criminal to catch a criminal. but beyond michael cohen, this case will be a document case. and it's true there are checks made out to...
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because i want to know what corroboration there is from michael cohen. that's key, and we know that there is david pecker who will give corroboration i imagine for why these payments were made to stormy daniels and to karen macdougal because david pecker was part of conversations about them being part of campaign expenditures to help donald trump in his campaign, so david pecker is going to be critical people from the trump campaign like kellyanne conway and hope hicks will also be critical if they were involved in communications about those payments and can testify that they were to further donald trump's campaign interests. but i also want to know who from the trump organization has testimony and documents that will reflect how those payments were reflected in the business records of the trump organization, and for what purposes those records were used. john so a lot of things happening today. there will be a meeting today with the new york state court officers, the nypd that secret service to go through the mechanics of tuesday . there will also be a
because i want to know what corroboration there is from michael cohen. that's key, and we know that there is david pecker who will give corroboration i imagine for why these payments were made to stormy daniels and to karen macdougal because david pecker was part of conversations about them being part of campaign expenditures to help donald trump in his campaign, so david pecker is going to be critical people from the trump campaign like kellyanne conway and hope hicks will also be critical if...
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i think it's clear he needs michael cohen and he's going to rely on michael cohen. and as i said, john, that's a risky proposition. regardless of whether one may think michael cohen has turned himself around and i believe he has we heard earlier a clip of his lawyer saying this was entirely a personal payment and had nothing to do with contribution. you know who else who said that, michael cohen to the ftc. he'll have to explain why hut he said back then was a lie and why he should be believed. difficult jury to put in front of a witness of 12 average citizens. >> how likely is an indictment here? >> it seems very likely given the stage ware at, given michael cohen seems tuesday be one of the final witnesses and the d.a. has given donald trump now essentially his last chance to go into the grand jury. so i do think it's quite likely bordering uncertain we'll see an indictment soon. but i'll stress this every time i talk about the possibility of an indictment of donald trump, an indictment and conviction are two very important things. >> and one book related question
i think it's clear he needs michael cohen and he's going to rely on michael cohen. and as i said, john, that's a risky proposition. regardless of whether one may think michael cohen has turned himself around and i believe he has we heard earlier a clip of his lawyer saying this was entirely a personal payment and had nothing to do with contribution. you know who else who said that, michael cohen to the ftc. he'll have to explain why hut he said back then was a lie and why he should be believed....
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michael cohen is the key witness in this investigation. he was donald trump's former lawyer and fixer, the one who paid that initial $130,000 to stormy daniels, and yet, as the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district of new york laid out in its own case against michael cohen in 2018, they repeatedly noted that he had a pattern of deception. that over the course of years he had consistently lied at the benefit of not only donald trump but also himself. he also was found guilty as part of his plea agreement in 2018 to lying to congress in 2017. even a judge in march of 2020 rejected his plea to have his sentencing reduced saying that after his initial sentencing that he had continued to offer misleading and false statements. all of that said, michael cohen pushes back hard against this, essentially making the case that he since then, since his guilty plea has testified hundreds of hours under oath to the new york attorney general's office, to the manhattan district attorney's office, to the special counselor, robert mueller's probe.
michael cohen is the key witness in this investigation. he was donald trump's former lawyer and fixer, the one who paid that initial $130,000 to stormy daniels, and yet, as the u.s. attorney's office in the southern district of new york laid out in its own case against michael cohen in 2018, they repeatedly noted that he had a pattern of deception. that over the course of years he had consistently lied at the benefit of not only donald trump but also himself. he also was found guilty as part of...
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cohen who is going to be on your show in a little bit, and they put michael cohen in jail for the same stuff, and the justice department when they did that, they filed a sentencing memo, and in writing, it says this was a crime and it was directed at not michael cohen coming up with this on his own, but donald trump was the one who ordered cohen to do this and that was not just -- that was the u.s. justice department, but not the barack obama or merrick garland justice department that was the trump justice department that made that conclusion when you hear lindsey graham and others talking about this being political and stuff, you know, it's a little hard given what the trump justice department said in 2018 my bottom line on this is very similar to joyce's, which is we haven't seen the charges lindsey graham hasn't seen the charges so not sure exactly how he knows what's in them, but whatever those charges are, trump is going to be entitled to all of the protections of the criminal system which our founders bent over backwards to protect criminal defendants, all 12 jurors are going to
cohen who is going to be on your show in a little bit, and they put michael cohen in jail for the same stuff, and the justice department when they did that, they filed a sentencing memo, and in writing, it says this was a crime and it was directed at not michael cohen coming up with this on his own, but donald trump was the one who ordered cohen to do this and that was not just -- that was the u.s. justice department, but not the barack obama or merrick garland justice department that was the...
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donald trump wrote to michael cohen to cover up that payoff. and you imagine putting your client, donald trump, on the witness stand in manhattan, in his own defense. and then you hear him say to an audience of a few thousand trump fanatics in texas, that wouldn't be the one. meaning, i, donald trump, an expert on donald trump having a an affair, insisted you that's not a person donald trump would have an affair with. and then, as donald trump's criminal defense lawyer, you listen, hoping that your client donald trump can find a way of saying i love my wife. and he's never been under more public pressure in his life to say, i love my wife. and he cannot bring himself to say it. those words do not cross his mind. if you're donald trump's lawyers, and he is indicted in the stormy daniels case in manhattan, you know that your only chance of getting a not guilty with donald trump to put him on the witness stand to try to convince that jury that the only reason he participated in the stormy granules payoff scheme was not to hide stormy daniels story
donald trump wrote to michael cohen to cover up that payoff. and you imagine putting your client, donald trump, on the witness stand in manhattan, in his own defense. and then you hear him say to an audience of a few thousand trump fanatics in texas, that wouldn't be the one. meaning, i, donald trump, an expert on donald trump having a an affair, insisted you that's not a person donald trump would have an affair with. and then, as donald trump's criminal defense lawyer, you listen, hoping that...
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the fact thatfá michael cohen couldn't be trusted. what do you make of michael cohen as key witness in allfá og because he'st( lied. he lied to congress about trump hotel in moscow that he was trying to build. he plea80■ guilty toe1 qñthat. he hasn't beenÑi 100% truthful p that's something trump's lawyers are going tor assuming he'sxd indicted and if there comes a trial they'll be able to attack michael cohen's credibility and have concreteñrr examples. there's a lot of supporting evidence, there's the picture of them together, there's the fact surrogate. >> house speakerw3 mccarthy tod suggested that trump wasn't■óÑi trying to hide hisxd payments t stormy daniels. from your reporting, we know thatxd michael cohen first of a took out a home equity line of credit and then wired to stormy daniels lawyer and thenÑi wired( stormy daniels, is that right in. íók] yes. >> that seems like so%t trying tot(çó hide io%ething. >> yes. >> was itv down those payments? >>5a■ yeah, i mean, we had gott informationfá about the -- we0l
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but cohen is telling a different story. do you trust michael cohen then or now? he admitted he lied in a court of law and pled guilty. that is what the bragg jury will have to answer. it's baffling right now when you consider that alvin bragg is famous for handing out plea deals like candy including reduced charges for rapists and robbers. he reduced 52% of every felony case to a misdemeanor including many that were caught on tape on camera. in other words, a slam dunk conviction. if trump is charged it would be the first and only case that bragg ramped up from misdemeanor to a felony that we know of. this seems risky for mr. bragg given he only gets a conviction in about half of the felony cases he tries. 49% of the time he charges somebody and has a trial, he loses 49% of the time. one of the lowest convictions rates in the entire u.s. and 17 points lower than the last d.a. bragg must like to lose. and campaign finance violations are typically charged at the federal level. the doj declined to bring any charges against trump. in 2018 a lawyer representing michae
but cohen is telling a different story. do you trust michael cohen then or now? he admitted he lied in a court of law and pled guilty. that is what the bragg jury will have to answer. it's baffling right now when you consider that alvin bragg is famous for handing out plea deals like candy including reduced charges for rapists and robbers. he reduced 52% of every felony case to a misdemeanor including many that were caught on tape on camera. in other words, a slam dunk conviction. if trump is...
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of michael cohen. does it help michael cohen stha says he's the guy that knows about it. >> it helps the case. that's a valuable piece of evidence for prosecutors because you show a jury. here's donald trump. he's lying right here. he's saying he does thot know about these payments. we know for sure that he knows about them. there's a separate question to criminal intent, but it shows he's trying to cover something up. i want to be clear. i do not think the prosecution's case is overwhelming or a slam dunk or a smoking gun, but they have a case. i did some reporting on the deliberations behind the scenes at the southern district of new york. two years ago they were considering this same pattern trying to decide whether to charge donald trump. the consensus among prosecutors was that there was enough evidence to charge. some felt it was close to the line. others felt it was beyond that. this case does have some proof issues. it's scouring president trump's personal for years. in search for crime needs t
of michael cohen. does it help michael cohen stha says he's the guy that knows about it. >> it helps the case. that's a valuable piece of evidence for prosecutors because you show a jury. here's donald trump. he's lying right here. he's saying he does thot know about these payments. we know for sure that he knows about them. there's a separate question to criminal intent, but it shows he's trying to cover something up. i want to be clear. i do not think the prosecution's case is...
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cohen, with michael cohen's -- his other lawyers that hav been involved. i'm not sure that she would be the one to come in i think she can add a lot to the trial. i think they called he initially just see what sh would say. and previously she has met wit attorneys from the distric attorney's office. but i think they've called i the main people that they want to have that i think the wanted the grand jury to hea already. >> all right, panels, th ground we have a lot more to brea down our coverage continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. the more times you wash them. downy protects fibers, doing more than detergent alone. see? this one looks brand new. saves me money? i'm starting to like downy. downy saves loads. research shows people remember ads with a catchy song. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's a little number you'll never forget. did you know that liberty mutual custo— ♪ liberty mutual. ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ ♪ custom home insurance cr
cohen, with michael cohen's -- his other lawyers that hav been involved. i'm not sure that she would be the one to come in i think she can add a lot to the trial. i think they called he initially just see what sh would say. and previously she has met wit attorneys from the distric attorney's office. but i think they've called i the main people that they want to have that i think the wanted the grand jury to hea already. >> all right, panels, th ground we have a lot more to brea down our...
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you'd have to ask michael cohen. of course, we've seen how that saga google look at his body language. he wasn't telling the truth. everybody knew that. thank you so much. thank sarah. we will continue obviously to follow this historic indictment of former president trump. but first newly released audio reveals some of the chilling 911 calls from the elementary school shooting in nashville as funerals for the victims begin. also russia has arrested an american reporter and accused him of being a spy. how the white house says it is responding. that's next. s spot, does it? obediently. o oh, boy. wonderful pistachios get cracking. this is my coffee shop. and that's mend my custom shirt from custom inc this week, we moved into a new, bigger spa and brought on anotr employee to celebrate. i ordered new branded gear for the whole team. everything was so easy to make with custom design lab. i just chose my products, added our logo and placed my order. our new gear really helps us look and feel like a team. bring your own t
you'd have to ask michael cohen. of course, we've seen how that saga google look at his body language. he wasn't telling the truth. everybody knew that. thank you so much. thank sarah. we will continue obviously to follow this historic indictment of former president trump. but first newly released audio reveals some of the chilling 911 calls from the elementary school shooting in nashville as funerals for the victims begin. also russia has arrested an american reporter and accused him of being...
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what you make of michael cohen as a key witness in all of this? >> i think he is a problematic witness because he has lied. he lied to congress about a trump hotel in moscow that he was trying to build, he pleaded guilty to that. he committed these crimes and then admitted to them, although he is recanting some of the stuff. so he hasn't been 100 percent truthful. that is something that trump's lawyers are going to be able to, assuming he's indicted, if there ever come to trial, they will absolutely be able to attack michael cohen's credibility and have concrete examples. does that mean he's not telling the truth now? no. it doesn't mean that. there is a lot of supporting evidence. there is the picture of them together. there is the fact that he did all of those things on trump's behalf. so there is some corroborating behavior that could show michael cohen to be telling the truth. and bob crystal also, he is the giuliani -- so he is basically trumps surrogate in that situation. so i wouldn't take him if he's value either. >> after askew. how speak
what you make of michael cohen as a key witness in all of this? >> i think he is a problematic witness because he has lied. he lied to congress about a trump hotel in moscow that he was trying to build, he pleaded guilty to that. he committed these crimes and then admitted to them, although he is recanting some of the stuff. so he hasn't been 100 percent truthful. that is something that trump's lawyers are going to be able to, assuming he's indicted, if there ever come to trial, they will...
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cohen that on the same day that trump had said michael cohen won't flip publicly that because that costello sends him a note that says you have friends in high places. sleep well tonight, michael and it's in the obstruction section. the mueller report. i could even imagine that brag, introduced that for the grand jury to consider as well and that's what we're going to. we're going to find out. i mean, i suppose eventually, but what? i'm curious about fairness, you've got 23 new yorkers going in, right? they get caught. they don't get called in one day. they're called in today. so then today they're called in the afternoon. everyone anticipates a lot of reporting is going to be about trump. maybe it happens today. then we find out this grand jury is called in and it's not about trump at all. what does that say to you? that just means that this was a case. this was a grand jury that was called for multiple cases, which is very common in these long term investigatory grand juries. they're normally for one or two or three cases, so it's just business as usual, but we don't usually see it becaus
cohen that on the same day that trump had said michael cohen won't flip publicly that because that costello sends him a note that says you have friends in high places. sleep well tonight, michael and it's in the obstruction section. the mueller report. i could even imagine that brag, introduced that for the grand jury to consider as well and that's what we're going to. we're going to find out. i mean, i suppose eventually, but what? i'm curious about fairness, you've got 23 new yorkers going...
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so they refer to michael cohen. the fixer. and so -- >> which is just three days after his story is broken. >> so this timing, the fact that she had tried to sell it for all these years and couldn't, but only now three days after access hollywood, a month before the election, trump now is willing to buy this story. that's what prosecutors will argue makes it a campaign finance violation because that shows that it was related to his campaign and not just to protect his wife or something like that. >> but was her assumption that they were going to publish this story? she didn't know at the time, her and her agent, they were buying the story to kill it to not let it be published? >> stormy knew what she was doing. >> she knew they were buying it and wasn't going to become public. >> she basically wanted to make money off this, at least to get some benefit because she felt she had been cheated after he promised her to put her on "the apprentice" and never did. >> what's at the heart of this? cohen pays her the $130,000. he has a s
so they refer to michael cohen. the fixer. and so -- >> which is just three days after his story is broken. >> so this timing, the fact that she had tried to sell it for all these years and couldn't, but only now three days after access hollywood, a month before the election, trump now is willing to buy this story. that's what prosecutors will argue makes it a campaign finance violation because that shows that it was related to his campaign and not just to protect his wife or...
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it seems they're relying heavily on michael cohen. we talked about the limitations that michael cohen provides. barb, if you are going to go after the former president of the united states from the outward appearance, does this look like a strong case, a winnable case, when it's this high stakes? >> well, of course we can't know the answer to that question until we see the charges themselves, but i would have to think that if you are alvin bragg, you are not going to bring a case unless you think the evidence is very strong. you know, there's the old adage if you come at the king, you best not miss. certainly no one is above the law. donald trump should not be held to a standard that's different from anyone else, but i think the stakes are higher, and i imagine that in a case like this, you take extra care to make sure that every t is crossed and every i is dotted. as you said, michael cohen appears to be a key witness in this case, because he is a convicted perjurer, i think a prudent prosecutor would do what alvin bragg appears to h
it seems they're relying heavily on michael cohen. we talked about the limitations that michael cohen provides. barb, if you are going to go after the former president of the united states from the outward appearance, does this look like a strong case, a winnable case, when it's this high stakes? >> well, of course we can't know the answer to that question until we see the charges themselves, but i would have to think that if you are alvin bragg, you are not going to bring a case unless...
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from michael cohen. i want to add that his attorney, uh, lanny davis just issued a statement as well, saying that cohen made the brave decision to speak truth to power and accept the consequences. and he has done so ever since. i'm proud to be his lawyer and his friend, and so you know, this has been a long journey for michael cohen. he did go to jail. ah as an attorney. he's talking here about presumption of innocence. um, which you know, michael cohen does not like donald trump in any way, shape or form. so you know, i think he's trying to say look, you know he's got to go through what i went through. he's he's got a he's got to go to a trial. he's got to be convicted or not convicted and, you know, i think from michael cohen, um this is a certain amount of vindication. i would have to say, but again, we don't know what the indictment is. we don't know what it says. and of course, donald trump has been denying this affair was stormy daniels so we'll have to see what what his response is and how he make
from michael cohen. i want to add that his attorney, uh, lanny davis just issued a statement as well, saying that cohen made the brave decision to speak truth to power and accept the consequences. and he has done so ever since. i'm proud to be his lawyer and his friend, and so you know, this has been a long journey for michael cohen. he did go to jail. ah as an attorney. he's talking here about presumption of innocence. um, which you know, michael cohen does not like donald trump in any way,...
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he said you have to ask michael cohen. rudy giuliani went on fox news and said trump reimbursed michael cohen for this payment. trump does not part ways with money. i think that is such an important part here. >> but didn't the attorney -- the attorney, the whoun is representing him at least speaking for him on television, people don't like to be called that on tv attorneys, i thought it was a compliment. apparently someone took issue with saying that. but didn't he admit sort of that donald trump knew about it and that in this interview on another network and in a sense lied about it because he didn't want to break the agreement? >> yeah. kaitlan is right. that's a good piece of evidence for the prosecution. the fact that on air force one he denied he knew about it. we know he knew about it. the response from the lawyer is he felt like he was bound by this nondisclosure agreement. the better answer there is he denied making this payment for the same reason he made the payment in the first place. he was trying to avoid per
he said you have to ask michael cohen. rudy giuliani went on fox news and said trump reimbursed michael cohen for this payment. trump does not part ways with money. i think that is such an important part here. >> but didn't the attorney -- the attorney, the whoun is representing him at least speaking for him on television, people don't like to be called that on tv attorneys, i thought it was a compliment. apparently someone took issue with saying that. but didn't he admit sort of that...
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allen weisselberg, paul manafort, michael cohen. you know this man, there's a lot of bravado coming out of his social media now and out of his son, but how do you think he really will react to the idea that he is going to be booked. he has been indicted >> well, i think first of all, a lot of us are forgetting donald trump just a couple days ago said this case was over. they were not going to go forward. and he predicted that this is not going to happen. well, it's happening so to the last minute, he was delusional that he was still above the law and that no one could get him after saying some very bigoted and anti-semitic statements against alvin bragg, saying he was a soros funded animal this is what he called this man, an animal. the irony of this is twofold there may be cases that legal experts say appear to them more serious if he in fact is indicted in georgia and by the feds but this is by far the most humiliating indictment because he's going to be booked and charged in new york. and he always would say, he's said to me, i'm
allen weisselberg, paul manafort, michael cohen. you know this man, there's a lot of bravado coming out of his social media now and out of his son, but how do you think he really will react to the idea that he is going to be booked. he has been indicted >> well, i think first of all, a lot of us are forgetting donald trump just a couple days ago said this case was over. they were not going to go forward. and he predicted that this is not going to happen. well, it's happening so to the...
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the chief witness, michael cohen, is .a convicted felon. his own lawyer calls a unreliably dirt bag. so what's behind all this hatred? they tried to destroy cavanaugh triedbecause they wanted to kep the supreme court seat open. they're trying to destroy donald trump because they fear a him at the ballot box to the conservatives out there, maket sure you vote . if you got friends, make suret e they vote. if you don't have ands maky fri. go make some friends. but yobut you need to help this. donald j. trump, they're trying to drain him dry. he's spent more moneyspent n on lawyers than mostlarcen peope spend on campaigns. they're trying to bleed him drty . donald j. trump .com go to night, give the president some money to fight this. t this this bul is going to destroy dest america. we're going to fight back atame the ballotfi box. we're not going to give in. ho how does this end, sean?end? trump win in court and trump wins in court and he wins the election. that's how this wins. ends and how do you get to thirty four counts on this, in your v
the chief witness, michael cohen, is .a convicted felon. his own lawyer calls a unreliably dirt bag. so what's behind all this hatred? they tried to destroy cavanaugh triedbecause they wanted to kep the supreme court seat open. they're trying to destroy donald trump because they fear a him at the ballot box to the conservatives out there, maket sure you vote . if you got friends, make suret e they vote. if you don't have ands maky fri. go make some friends. but yobut you need to help this....
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now lanny davis, attorney from michael cohen is back with me. and obviously lanny and i spoke last night on the news of the indictment. so you just heard jim trustee. he's very confident he thinks they're going to be able to get this case dismissed. based on your exposure to this grand jury, your client's exposure, obviously, and the evidence in this case that you are aware of beyond your client, michael cohen, do you think that there is a chance of motion to dismiss could be successful very small because there's so much factual dispute on the material issues doesn't deprive a jury of making a decision. a motion to dismiss is a decision to deprive a trial by jury. and that's a very high standard. as a lawyer. it's very rare that a judge will deny a jury the right to decide factual disputes. i do want to correct the record. it's very important that i do. so you seem to respect this gentleman. i don't know him. who is the defense attorney for mr trump, but he got a basic fact wrong and he probably knows better and just didn't just misspoke. nobody
now lanny davis, attorney from michael cohen is back with me. and obviously lanny and i spoke last night on the news of the indictment. so you just heard jim trustee. he's very confident he thinks they're going to be able to get this case dismissed. based on your exposure to this grand jury, your client's exposure, obviously, and the evidence in this case that you are aware of beyond your client, michael cohen, do you think that there is a chance of motion to dismiss could be successful very...
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as legal fees to michael cohen. that is some of what the manhattan grand jury is studying, they may have more evidence than we know about, in today's reports indicate, possibly, possibly because of a previously scheduled holiday break for passover and easter in the work schedule of that manhattan grand jury, the grand jury might not be meeting again until april. and to address whatever confusion you've been feeling about that news today, we are very lucky tonight to have the best available expert to talk about that. no one currently working in the district attorney's office is, of course, available to us. but we are going to start off our discussion tonight with dan horowitz, former manhattan assistant district attorney who was a top prosecutor of the white-collar crimes unit, like the possible crime is being investigated by the trump grand jury. also with us, neal katyal, former acting us solicitor general, msnbc legal analyst. neil, let me begin with you in what is the latest news of the day, that is, donald trump
as legal fees to michael cohen. that is some of what the manhattan grand jury is studying, they may have more evidence than we know about, in today's reports indicate, possibly, possibly because of a previously scheduled holiday break for passover and easter in the work schedule of that manhattan grand jury, the grand jury might not be meeting again until april. and to address whatever confusion you've been feeling about that news today, we are very lucky tonight to have the best available...
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so you have to cooperate absolutely everything michael cohen says, but michael cohen also provides a lot of color for who donald trump is donald trump picked michael cohen donald trump used michael cohen and michael cohen says he wrote the book on how to do these criminal schemes that lawyers and others are doing with donald trump so that is who donald trump picked at somebody like that and as a prosecutor you have to live with whoever it is that the defendant brings in as to the witness and the person in the room is going to have the evidence but i think alvin bragg had all of that cooperation lined up knowing you would have to cooperate him and he knew who michael cohen was exactly exactly let's talk a little bit about the strength of this case because we did have an amount of we treated everyone with the john edwards on this and how do you see this case as meaningfully different -- is it legally sound, right, so in this case has both of those issues which the john edwards case, i think is it necessarily have those issues right? the john edwards case, you know, was much more about
so you have to cooperate absolutely everything michael cohen says, but michael cohen also provides a lot of color for who donald trump is donald trump picked michael cohen donald trump used michael cohen and michael cohen says he wrote the book on how to do these criminal schemes that lawyers and others are doing with donald trump so that is who donald trump picked at somebody like that and as a prosecutor you have to live with whoever it is that the defendant brings in as to the witness and...
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cohen, michael cohen's the star witness. people can decide the jury will decide if they believe him. trump's team going to is going to point out that michael cohen has been convicted of perjury and fraud. personal animosity. i mean, to say the least, michael cohen despises donald trump, and they're going to argue that he's made inconsistent prior statements. but michael come with the prosecutors are going to argue he's backed up by other evidence, and you can believe him or other people which brags team may need. okay ellie. thank you so helpful, don. all right, ellie poppy, new york city ramping up security this morning they have been for a while. but yesterday and even the weeks before they're preparing for possible protests in the wake of the former president's unprecedented indictment, the nypd coordinating with federal law enforcement and the secret service, to be ready for whatever might happen. seeing his brand jen grass live near the manhattan courthouse for us this morning. good morning, bren police, other security
cohen, michael cohen's the star witness. people can decide the jury will decide if they believe him. trump's team going to is going to point out that michael cohen has been convicted of perjury and fraud. personal animosity. i mean, to say the least, michael cohen despises donald trump, and they're going to argue that he's made inconsistent prior statements. but michael come with the prosecutors are going to argue he's backed up by other evidence, and you can believe him or other people which...
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there's lots to break down here i want to start with you michael cohen says that this i really all a fundraising opportunity for donald trump take a listen to this. >> not only does he want there to be another violent protests he's also looking to do th great grift, continue the grea graft, and obtain campaign contributions off of this. oh, they're attacking your favorite presidents and me $5, send me $10 it's all part of the great grift. >> broad question to you here, matthew, to start off, you reaction to what trump's pos and why you think he decided t try and get ahead of the narrative? >> well, all the second part versus trying to get ahead o the narrative because he doesn't want to be able to account. this is a guy that throughou his entire life has managed to slip, slipper, push, and can joel, yell, scream is way ou of accountability. and now in the accountabilit is moving closer, and closer and closer to mar-a-lago, he's doing the same thing using every opportunity. i actually think slats about raising money, and more abou what happened in the advance o january six. he's tryin
there's lots to break down here i want to start with you michael cohen says that this i really all a fundraising opportunity for donald trump take a listen to this. >> not only does he want there to be another violent protests he's also looking to do th great grift, continue the grea graft, and obtain campaign contributions off of this. oh, they're attacking your favorite presidents and me $5, send me $10 it's all part of the great grift. >> broad question to you here, matthew, to...
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not michael cohen, michael flynn. >> so if you're facing him in a republican primary, i do think it's problematic because it does help mobilize his voters, his cult following i don't see how that -- but in a general election, you need more people and trump's got to get more people he doesn't have those people you don't get those people by being indicted >> does it help desantis if he tries to stop him from being removed to new york? >> that's the million dollar question is, because again, joy, we're all in these murky waters. and if you're desantis, do you sit back and say -- don't say anything because one of the politics 101 is when your enemy is imploding, you get out of your enemy's way so does ron desantis just sit back in a cut, as it ere, and let him implode and don't touch it at all? if i were -- now, that would be funny if i was working on the desantis campaign. but if i working on desantis campaign, ron desanctimonius don't touch it at all. >> i can't mean you running desantis campaign. >>> up next, today's republican party is parroting the talking points of vladimir putin an
not michael cohen, michael flynn. >> so if you're facing him in a republican primary, i do think it's problematic because it does help mobilize his voters, his cult following i don't see how that -- but in a general election, you need more people and trump's got to get more people he doesn't have those people you don't get those people by being indicted >> does it help desantis if he tries to stop him from being removed to new york? >> that's the million dollar question is,...
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and let me just mention about michael cohen, michael cohen in front of the country and the world on television said i'm ashamed of what i did. now i'm going to tell truth to power from my family and for my country. so whatever donald trump thinks about attacking michael's credibility, michael didn't take the fifth amendment. as mr trump did, he went into a grand jury cooperated with congressional committees. but most importantly , erin in my philosophy when somebody owns wrongdoing and says, i apologize. as elijah cummings, who ran that hearing said to me, i believe in redemption. michael collins credibility surrounded by documents. this case is about documents, not just michael. i think his testimony will be credible. alright well, lenny, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. a lanny davis with me. and of course, now elie honig joins me. our senior legal analyst, former assistant u. s attorney for the southern district of new york. what do you make of the way he sees it. very interesting interview. so first of all, mr davis is correct when he says that the motives here can be mixed. it
and let me just mention about michael cohen, michael cohen in front of the country and the world on television said i'm ashamed of what i did. now i'm going to tell truth to power from my family and for my country. so whatever donald trump thinks about attacking michael's credibility, michael didn't take the fifth amendment. as mr trump did, he went into a grand jury cooperated with congressional committees. but most importantly , erin in my philosophy when somebody owns wrongdoing and says, i...
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donald trump picked michael cohen, donald trump used to michael cohen, he wrote the book on how to do these criminal schemes that lawyers and others are doing with donald trump. that is who donald trump picked, as somebody like that. as a prosecutor, you have to live with who it is that the defendant brings in as a witness, and a person in the room who's going to have the evidence. i think that alvin bragg had all of that corroboration lined up, knowing that you have to corroborate with him. >> and he knew who michael cohen was. >> exactly. >> let's talk a little bit about the strength of the case, because we did a fair amount of treating everybody to the john andrews history, how do you see this case as meaningfully different than the edwards case, for example? >> this case has two legal issues, right? a, did it happen, and michael cohen has the issues that he has. you have to corroborate that. and b, it is it legally sound? for both of those issues, the john edwards case, i think that it did not necessarily have those issues. the john edwards case with much more about the facts, and
donald trump picked michael cohen, donald trump used to michael cohen, he wrote the book on how to do these criminal schemes that lawyers and others are doing with donald trump. that is who donald trump picked, as somebody like that. as a prosecutor, you have to live with who it is that the defendant brings in as a witness, and a person in the room who's going to have the evidence. i think that alvin bragg had all of that corroboration lined up, knowing that you have to corroborate with him....
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i mean, castello was casting doubt on michael cohen's testimony, michael cohen had said this was hush money payment was paid. in order to not have some bad news come out that could damage trump in the election. costello's saying, well, michael cohen told me it was, you know michael cohen's idea, and it was to avoid melanie trump being upset. so this testimony, i think was very important to shore up the credibility of michael cohen's testimony that the payments were related to the campaign. that's the most significant testimony and that david pecker has to offer and am i, where he worked entered into a nonprosecution agreement with the federal government several years ago when they were initially investigating michael cohen for these payments, and in that nonprosecution agreement, and i agreed that these were campaign related expenditures. so as part of that agreement is that does he have to show up to testify. he has to be cooperative, and so it it. presumably the federal government is asking him to be cooperative with other prosecutors as well. i mean, does indictment. i mean, over t
i mean, castello was casting doubt on michael cohen's testimony, michael cohen had said this was hush money payment was paid. in order to not have some bad news come out that could damage trump in the election. costello's saying, well, michael cohen told me it was, you know michael cohen's idea, and it was to avoid melanie trump being upset. so this testimony, i think was very important to shore up the credibility of michael cohen's testimony that the payments were related to the campaign....